Letter from Alvah H. Worden to William Henry Seward, June 5, 1838

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Letter from Alvah H. Worden to William Henry Seward, June 5, 1838

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Distributor:Seward Family Digital Archive

Institution:University of Rochester

Repository:Rare Books and Special Collections

Date:1838-06-05

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Letter from Alvah H. Worden to William Henry Seward, June 5, 1838

action: sent

sender: Alvah Worden
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Person

Name: Alvah Worden Birth: 1797-03-06 Death: 1856-02-16

location: Canandaigua NY
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Place

Name:  City:  Canandaigua County:  Ontario State:  NY Country:  US

receiver: William Seward
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Person

Name: William Seward Birth: 1801-05-16 Death: 1872-10-10

location: Auburn NY
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Place

Name:  City:  Auburn County:  Cayuga State:  NY Country:  US

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revision: ekk 2016-03-09

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Canandaigua June 5 1838
Dear S
I returned this morning and found your letter from
Auburn: I wrote you from Rochester
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Place

Name:  City:  Rochester County:  Monroe State:  NY Country:  US
to care of Weed
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Person

Name: Thurlow Weed Birth: 1797-11-15 Death: 1882-11-22
and wrote
a note enclosed to Frances
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Person

Name: Frances Seward Birth: 1805-09-24 Death: 1865-06-21
to be forwarded to you: as you will
soon receive from Albany
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Place

Name:  City:  Albany County:  Albany State:  NY Country:  US
my letter I need not repeat its
contents. Since my return I have seen Wheeler
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Person

Name: Grattan Wheeler Birth: 1783-08-25 Death: 1852-03-11
: who is undoubtedly
Grangers
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Person

Name: Francis Granger Birth: 1792-12-01 Death: 1868-08-31Certainty: Probable
factotum. and he does not seem inclined to be rash
I read him portions of your letter about the Clay
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Person

Name: Henry Clay Birth: 1777-04-12 Death: 1852-06-29
movements
which pleased him. W and all the rest of the old Anti
Masonic stock in this county are true men. and seem to
be extremely anxious that an understanding should be had
between you & G. I think G movements will injure
him in the End and that he has magnified this Clay
business too much as the people will learn. I think as Holley
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Person

Name:   Birth:  Death: Certainty: Probable

says his present “pucker” arises out of his fears that provisions
are to be made for Talmadge
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Person

Name: Nathaniel Tallmadge Birth: 1795-02-08 Death: 1864-11-02
in preference to him for U.S.S
should we have it in our power to give the place to G or T. I do
think in all Honor and fairness G ought not to be set aside[ . ]
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Reason: 

Now look how there is no organisation in the Whig ranks
Worth one fig or any political sagacity or forecast in our Eastern
friends. and it seems to me that if G & Spencer
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Person

Name: Ambrose Spencer Birth: 1765-12-13 Death: 1848-03-13
& Whittlesey
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Person

Name: Frederick Whittlesey Birth: 1799-06-12 Death: 1851-09-19

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and our western friends generally will pull together we
can carry the state: and then hold on to it. It strikes me
that we should be united and firm: and adhere to that
policy which has been the foundation of our success and
which we acknowledge the just claims of all. have it perfectly
understood that we are one in purpose & for our great
object irrespective of the interest of individuals. and I for
one would be glad to see Granger in the U S.S in case
he is not Gov. or in case he is then the place should be
yours. Our friend Spencer ought to be the man in preference
to both of you & all others but he is wanted for our courts
if we ever get the power. and if our friends will use a little
discretion & moderation they will find themselves in power &
perhaps in place. the great thing to be considered is to
lay a proper ground for the support of ourselves after
we have succeeded and I believe it is the policy of Van
Buranism to hurry us into a victory before we are suffi-
ciently prepared to sustain ourselves: we may hereafter
experience the truth of the adage "that an unexpected victory
is worse than an expected defeat." If we succeed and retain
our power we shall have stern work to do: we must
go to the work of cutting off heads "like tops o' thistles" your stones
& rocks et id omnia Genusseward-editorial-note Latin, "et id omnia Genus" translates to "and all that kind of"
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Editorial Note

must be put "hors du partieseward-editorial-note French, "hors du partie" translates to "outside the part"
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Editorial Note

." as with
such men we cant live. and we should now early & surely look
about us for the best means of securing victory. Granger cannot
be dispensed with: he has much political sagacity. and great
strength with the people[ . ]
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Reason: 

Truly
AW
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Hon William H. Seward
Auburn
CANANDAIGUA NY JUN 6
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seward-pen
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Person

Name: William Seward Birth: 1801-05-16 Death: 1872-10-10
A Worden
June 6. 1836.
date: 
Tuesday, June 5, 1838
year: 
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